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FSGuru
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    Sept 28, 2009 at 07:07 AM
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Whoa!

I had no idea! When did this happen? Was he fired or did he "resign to peruse other interests"Who actually did it? What were the reasons (the truth, not the bitter diatribes) was it financial, company politics, HR issues, etc...

Who took his place?

Sad story, any way you look at! I hope all works out for everyone involved.


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ISellLettuce
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    Oct 01, 2009 at 04:14 PM
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BigCityBoi....check yourself for a moment, take a deep breath...

I appreciate your ability to run smack on the artist formerly known as the Mike & Mike (and Mike) Show. I'm sure you have your reasons. No need to drag DSMs into the mud, especially Ron W. Guy is legit, believe me.

Knowing what I know about PFG-TPC, my guess is that you fell victim to the Lizzie Borden-esque massacre that was taken place out in your area. From what I hear, TPC lost a lot of great souls on that battlefield, I'm sorry you were one of them. I understand that you also probably have an ax to grind (pun certainly intended), but you're misguided. Under the W administration, DSMs didn't exactly have a whole lot of say in who to keep and who to let go. If the red phone rang, they were just there to follow the orders from up above. 

The company hit a bit of an internal rut for awhile due to a bad presidential fit. It didn't work for them, so they moved on, and from what I hear, they guy that they have now running the show is fantastic. Very personable, very knowledgeable and has an enormous amount of industry experience. Brighter days are certainly ahead.

What's funny is that despite all the negative things about management you've heard, PFG-TPC still remains the premier distributor in their market because they have never lost focus of the main priority: to take care of their customer at any cost. The are focused more than ever on independently owned operations, and they have the strongest street reps out there, and that goes without saying. You have everything you want as a sales rep at PFG-TPC...a large and great product inventory, great internal operations, strong buyers, a state of the art delivery system and a strong support team behind them. People who work for PFG-TPC rarely leave on their own accord. From my understanding, they have many reps that have 15+ years with the company working for them.

All I know is this...as a long time customer of PFG-TPC, I have had the fortunate and unique experience of becoming very close with many of the people who work there. As a non-employee, I probably know way more about the PFG-TPC family than I should, but I cherish the fact that I have been able to build that trust and relationship with them. Their core principles still remain strong and intact. Above all, they truly do put the customer first and will go way out of their way to take care of them. I can't say that about any other company, and over the years, I have had the opportunity to work with most all of them in my area.

PFG-TPC has done great things for my business over the years and that is a trust that I take very seriously.

My point is that whatever unfortunate events may have happened in the past under old regimes is exactly that...it' in the past. They obviously realized they didn't hire the best fit for their company and have since made a change. Had I not been so close to many of the people that work with the company, I would have honestly never known the difference one way or the other because from a customer perspective, the only changes that I noticed were positive ones.

I personally look forward to many more great years as a partner in business with them.

Bigcityboi
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    Oct 07, 2009 at 01:53 PM
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Lettuce, are we talking about the same guy.The guy I am talking about started maneuvering to take the DSM job in Northwest Indiana back in June of "08" from the guy who hired him.I guess that makes him a OK.We know this because" loose lips at ballgames sinks ships"

 


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    Oct 07, 2009 at 03:08 PM
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BigCity
The issue is this...ISellLettuce is not a customer.  Why the hell would someone chose a username on this site as "ISellLettuce" and then claim in your post that you are a PFG customer.  What are you a salad shop?  The suspicion I have is is that ISellLettuce is Ron W himself.  Take a look at the verbiage in the post..."Check yourself" "Run Smack" "Artistry" "Legit"  these are Ron words no doubt.  What customer jumps on this site and spends multiple paragraphs defending TPC?  And then defends Ron W himself?   Who in operations spends time at 5:14pm to get involved in this?  Isn't it about time for the rush to start on a Thursday night at 5:14pm? 
 
There is far too much info in the post from ISellLettuce for it not to be an employee.
 
Nice post Ron.  While I would agree with most of it, you did a poor job of disguising it and I can't figure out why you feel the need to self gloss yourself.  You know the business, you certainly have the ability to be a good DSM.  Are you afraid that BigCity's post (claiming that you are next) is going to be read by the "new guy" and he is going to come knocking? I would think there are many of Wiedower's cronies in front of you (Mike Se. and Terry L to name a couple) 
 
Relax, go do your job and be yourself  and if I may suggest, go sell some lettuce.
 
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    Oct 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM
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Terry L ????

Is that Terry Lynch?

I knew Terry when he was in NE Ohio. I always thought he was an honorable man. Did right by me every time. Could never understadn his loyalty to that bucket of excrement, Mike W. they worked together for a brief period in Cleveland. Then the bucket of excrement left suddenly to go to the midwest.

Terry ended up getting whacked in Cleveland by the owner of the company. Terry had about 7 times the experience and knowledge than those idiots had (the proof is that 6 months later the idiot owner, who had been offered millions by a competitor to sell, waited to long, and busted out completely. losing evrything, and shut down). But he was the "outsider," so he was F'd from the get go, once the bucket of excrement left. nobody would listen to him.

But, if Terry surfaced out there in the midwest, good for him! I hope he does well and overcomes the connection to the bucket of excrement. He deserves better from where I sit.

In my mind he was one of the few refreshingly honest dudes that I have done business with.
ISellLettuce
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    Oct 08, 2009 at 04:25 PM
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Damn, I just posted a long response and it all got erased...now you get the cliff notes:

1) Hilarious, but I'm not Ron. I have met him numerous times though through TPC events and colleagues. Like I said, seems like a legit guy.

2) I am a long time customer of TPC. Not like you care to know, but I owned two restaurants and they did well for me at an early age. I sold them both and was going to relax on easy street for a while. Then I decided to take a job offer from TPC and worked there for about 2 years a few years back (during the Thoms family to PFG transition). I then decided it was time to go back into business for myself and TADA...built and opened a new restaurant. Now I'm a TPC customer again...see how that works?

3) I am flattered FSVet at your appreciation at my ability to articulate. Kudos to Ron I suppose for having a knack for vocabulary like myself .

4) You two (BigCity and FSVet) are clearly disgruntled former TPC employees who likely got knifed by Mike W, and probably wrongfully so. I'd be pissed to. Still, I don't see the connection to Ron.

5) I admit I know nothing of the "maneuvering" of which you speak of Big City. However short of totally throwing someone under the bus for legitimate reasons, I don't see how any amount of "maneuvering" would result in the firing of one guy and the immediate placement of the guy doing the "maneuvering". What likely happened if, that from everything I heard about the Mike W era is true, he placed "his people" in positions. That's probably exactly what happened. I don't know the extent of Ron and Mike W's relationship but if it was good, I would put my money on my explanation rather than some hatchet job that you speak of.

6) FSVet...you know who in operations spends their time at 5:14 on a Thursday posting on this site? The same person in operations who spends their time at 7:25 posting on this site. Someone who owns a restaurant and doesn't spend every waking minute of his life there. It's in good hands, but I do appreciate your concern.

7) Monkey..There is some Terry in management there, I have no idea what his last name is though.

And finally...

8) My name ISELLLETTUCE. Has absolutely nothing to iceberg, romaine, green leaf or anything else that you'd throw in your salad. For that matter, it has nothing to do with food service sales at all...

Until next time....

Bigcityboi
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    Oct 17, 2009 at 08:59 AM
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All I am going to say today about my previous post concerning PFG/TPC is 1 down and 3 to go.
Goodbye Brad I guess all of the outstanding ideas in your "toolbox" didn't workout to well in the Bigcity.I am guessing your menu design expertise and your website didn't go over with the new guy.I just wish you would have had time to show all of us exactly how you and Mike W.were going to run rampant in the Chicago area and prove to everyone how bad the previous group of managers were in Chicago.
 

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    Oct 24, 2009 at 09:38 AM
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This is getting interesting.  Me thinks that now with Brad gone, who goes next?  The high priced Sysco guys he brought in with Mike W that have yet to deliver anything or Mike S the obsolutley nuts VP of Purchasing? 
 
By the way...I too think that iselllettuce is Ron W.  The way he describes himself as an ex TPC associate really does not jive with anyone I know.  So cut the BS lettuce.
Bigcityboi
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    Oct 29, 2009 at 04:59 AM
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Chitown you took all of my talking points BRAVO . But lets go a little deeper, and explore where these DSM's that were hired from and who hired them

Mark G. Hired by " I can't believe I still have a job Shirley"....SYSCO
Mike C  Hired by " I really am smart" Brad F....SYSCO
Dan M.  Hired by " he gone" Brad F.....SYSCO
Ron W.  Hired by the guy he replaced and if anyone disputes this ask the wives of these 2 people about a conversation they had last year. Promoted by Mike W.To quote Mike on this guy " he's a stud". To bad the district is down about 100,000 per week in sales and 3 people short from December when he took over
And then the new DSM who Brad had to have. How are the Roma people working out. Oh yeah there gone.....SYSCO guy with vast pizza and Italian foods knowledge
 So 4 of the 5 are from Sysco Chicago.....Guys see if they will have you back.The other guy " who cares"

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